i need help on energy policy. here's the broad framework. let's help to fill in the gaps and make it a national effort, if you will. i think there's huge untapped potential in that area that could speak to bipartisanship. >> i agree with the. i think the biggest policy achievement probably the last 20th minute and welfare reform. 25 years i guess. now, 15 years, 96. that was done by clinton, begrudgingly accepted after modifying its on the other governors have a huge role in that a thing. angler, thompson, underpublicized and a couple democratic governors. so i think you could imagine that, if you can do serious health reform, the republican version of health reform which was medicaid back to the state shouldn't have a very serious, and truthfully even obamnicare will depend on the states. so you do need to have a series conversation with governors who understand the issues. >> and to that end i think governor romney be in a position to at least instinctively understand the culture of governors, how to harness them and energize them. >> othe